Madonna, the iconic pop star, has shared insights into the profound impact of spirituality on her career during her debut podcast interview. Scheduled for release on September 29, 2025, the episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty features the 67-year-old artist discussing her spiritual journey and its significance in her life and work.
In a candid conversation with podcast host Jay Shetty, Madonna delves into various topics, including the importance of forgiveness, the nature of success, and her long-standing connection with Kabbalah. The singer first encountered this mystical aspect of Judaism in 1996, just before the birth of her daughter Lourdes Leon.
During the interview, Madonna emphasizes, “You need to be spiritual to be successful. Success is having a spiritual life, period. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have one.” Her remarks highlight a belief that true achievement transcends material success, rooted instead in a deeper sense of purpose.
Spirituality as a Guiding Force
The seven-time Grammy Award winner reflects on her advocacy for human rights, stating, “What have I done for others? That’s really the only way you can be successful in life.” She likens the act of illuminating dark spaces to her mission of spreading positivity and light, suggesting that true impact is found in addressing challenges.
Madonna elaborates, “The greatest amount of light is where there’s darkness and you can reveal the most amount of light. When you’re in a dark room, you turn on the light. When you’re in a room that’s already light, what do you, there’s no, um, effort made. So should we look for darkness?” Her metaphor underscores the necessity of confronting obstacles to foster growth and enlightenment.
In the podcast, Madonna is joined by her longtime Kabbalah teacher, Eitan Yardeni. Together, they recently launched a new course titled The Mystical Studies of the Zohar, further integrating their spiritual teachings into practical applications.
Overcoming Judgment and Embracing Authenticity
Reflecting on her past experiences, Madonna acknowledges moments of vulnerability to external judgment, stating, “I was once a slave or victim of other people’s opinions of me. I don’t fit in, and not fitting in is what saves you.” This admission highlights her journey towards embracing individuality and resilience.
Throughout her career, Madonna has faced both triumphs and challenges. She asserts that spirituality has been fundamental in building her resilience. “Spiritual wisdom is not helpful when everything’s going your way. It’s helpful when you’re challenged and when you’re happy,” she explains. This perspective encourages listeners to appreciate the transient nature of success and the importance of humility.
“Radical acceptance is just accepting that what is happening to you is meant to happen to you – and that you’re going to be okay,” she adds, offering a powerful message of hope and self-acceptance.
As Madonna continues to navigate her illustrious career, her commitment to spirituality remains a cornerstone of her success. The full podcast episode promises to provide further insights into her unique blend of artistry and spiritual exploration, resonating with fans and newcomers alike.
